CHEM Thesis Info on 29 Nov 2023 Questions and Answers
Thesis info slides
I am planning to do my thesis at the company where I currently work. How much time should I allocate in total for the thesis in the case that I work, for example, half of the day for company and spend the other half working on the thesis?
This is something you need to discuss with your employer, supervisor and advisor. The needs vary quite a lot from one thesis project to another and throughout the thesis process. However, the total number of hours to be spent on the master’s thesis is about 800, which is usually about five months, and if you are working on something else, the time required is of course extended.
If I want to start my thesis in 15th of January, what is the deadline for me to get the thesis topic approval from the committee.
If you wish to have yout topic approved in the January meeting (23/1/2024), the deadline for the topic application is 29 December. You can find the deadlines here: https://www.aalto.fi/en/programmes/masters-programme-in-chemical-biochemical-and-materials-engineering/graduation#10-schedule-for-spring-2024
Will slides be available afterwards?
Information in the slides can be found here (pdf).
Is it possible to apply for an international internship scholarship, within which we will do our thesis as well?
According to https://www.aalto.fi/en/other-studies/tech-international-internship#0-internship-grants, the credits you earn must be included in your degree, but this work must be separate from the thesis and included as for example the course CHEM-E0135 International Professional Training (3–5 cr).
If the topic is agreed upon with the company and supervisor, but let's say the next DPC meeting will happen later, is it possible I can already start my thesis then?
Yes it is possible, but it is important to keep in mind that the topic and the supervisor are confirmed only after the DPC meeting (normally the committee accepts the topics and supervisors as proposed).
Is it compulsory to have 4 grades overall in the master's degree for Phd or in the master's thesis in particular?
Please read more about our doctoral programme here: https://www.aalto.fi/en/study-options/doctoral-programme-in-chemical-engineering
Can the supervisor also be the advisor, or do they have to be different persons?
It is recommended that they are different people. However, in some special cases with a separate approval and with a good reasoning the supervisor may also act as an advisor.
What if one gets a thesis topic from Sweden and the position is not paid? In that case, what should one do? Is it wise enough to connect that professor from another university with your academic advisor for better communication and to have a positive outcome of the offer?
Functioning lines of communication between the institution offering the thesis position and the supervisor are very important, so promoting communication is a valuable thing you can do. However, Aalto cannot guarantee a positive outcome in any case. The discussion is mostly between you and the outside institution.
Is there any minimum ECTS that i need to cover before starting thesis? Can i start my thesis early
No, but a completed Bachelor's degree is a requirement.
I have tentative topic for thesis from company where I work at. What should I do next? And how to find supervisor for my thesis?
Contact possible professors and ask if they could act as a supervisor for your topic. See the list of CHEM professors and keywords describing their expertise: https://mycourses.aalto.fi/course/view.php?id=34916§ion=2 (requires Aalto login). Research groups can be found at Aalto.fi: https://www.aalto.fi/en/school-of-chemical-engineering/departments-and-infrastructures
After agreeing on the topic with your supervisor, apply for topic approval as instructed above in section Working on your master's thesis.
As a scholarship based student, when is the latest time I can have my thesis defence?
If you are referring to the thesis presentation, it should be held before submitting the thesis for evaluation. The last deadline to submit the thesis for this academic year is 31 July (the topic must be approved in a previous meeting).
Where can we check the deadline of the next DPC?
You can check the deadline of CHEM's next DPC at your programme's Student Guide, e.g. for CBME https://www.aalto.fi/en/programmes/masters-programme-in-chemical-biochemical-and-materials-engineering/graduation#10-schedule-for-spring-2024
If I am writing my thesis in school, do I need to look for an advisor also
It is recommended to have at least one advisor, but in some cases with a special approval and with a good reasoning the supervisor may also act as an advisor.
Could you point us to some grants/scholarships to help us get support for unfunded thesis positions?
There are some foundations you can apply for grants from. A list can be found for Aalto grants at https://www.aalto.fi/fi/stipendit-ja-apurahat#/ and for external grants at https://www.aalto.fi/en/support-for-studying/grants-and-awards-outside-aalto-university
Is max. 2 the absolute limit for advisors?
Yes, one supervisor (Aalto professor) and max. 2 advisors.
I am from MS Creative Sustainability Chemical... If I want to pursue my master in business sustainability from business dept. Can I do that or from some other dept.
Discuss with your major/programme responsible professor before proceeding.
How much in advance one should search for topic?
Depends on your situation. We recommend not getting stuck on finding the "ideal" topic. There is no specific time, but reserve enough time to find a topic that is suitable enough. Keep in mind the application deadlines regarding the topic approval as well: https://www.aalto.fi/en/programmes/masters-programme-in-chemical-biochemical-and-materials-engineering/graduation#10-schedule-for-spring-2024
Is it possible to do a master's thesis as a combination of major and minor studies? If yes, in which faculty I should find the supervisor or group to work?
Yes, but this must be discussed with the major/programme responsible professor.
Can I look for supervising professor from another faculty?
Yes, you can.
I would want to do the research project on a suitable subject before starting my thesis, presumably from the same topic I do my project. I'm planning to slightly postpone my graduation from May to autumn 2024. How does this work? I'm a bit clueless.
The thesis project, including any experimental work should be discussed with the supervisor. If you are unsure about continuing your studies beyond the expected two years, please contact your major's planning officer.
How to know if a topic is suitable for a CHEM master’s thesis? Are there some requirements?
This is to communicate with the supervisor.
Who is my supervisor when doing the master's thesis (as it says in the guide to agree on the topic with a professor)?
Contact possible professors and ask if they could act as a supervisor for your topic. See the list of CHEM professors and keywords describing their expertise: https://mycourses.aalto.fi/course/view.php?id=34916§ion=2 (requires Aalto login).
Research groups can be found at Aalto.fi: https://www.aalto.fi/en/school-of-chemical-engineering/departments-and-infrastructures
How should I proceed if I'm planning to start writing my thesis in April-May? I'm writing for my company I'm currently working at.
If you already have a topic and a supervising Aalto professor, apply for the topic approval in the eAge system and have a kick off meeting with the supervisor (and advisors). Remember to check the meeting schedules and application deadlines: https://www.aalto.fi/en/programmes/masters-programme-in-chemical-biochemical-and-materials-engineering/graduation#10-schedule-for-spring-2024
Is there any guidance from the school when doing the thesis work (like in bachelor's thesis) or is it completely self-directed?
The guidance comes mainly from the Advisor and Supervisor. You can also find guidance on the thesis page https://www.aalto.fi/en/programmes/masters-programme-in-chemical-biochemical-and-materials-engineering/thesis, but the work is indeed more independent than with the bachelor's thesis.
Where should I start with trying to find a thesis topic? Is there somewhere listed some companies that are interested in working with students doing their master's thesis?
When starting the process, first contact your professor(s), they might already know suitable projects: https://mycourses.aalto.fi/course/view.php?id=34916§ion=2
The thesis can be written either for a company or the university, or even abroad.
You can also look for completed theses in AaltoDoc to get inspiration from them: https://aaltodoc.aalto.fi/
Some thesis positions are listed in JobTeaser: https://aalto.jobteaser.com
If I would need more help with the thesis than the instructor has time to provide is there a way to get it somewhere else?
Your supervisor and advisor are the main contacts with getting instructions with your thesis.
Starting Point of Wellbeing also offers facilitated co-writing sessions for thesis writing Thesis and Tomatoes: https://www.aalto.fi/en/study-at-aalto/starting-point-of-wellbeing
What amount of instruction should we get during the thesis? Are we only getting help with the laboratory part and forming the research questions for the thesis?
It depends on your supervisor and advisor. The student and the thesis supervisor usually maintain frequent contact at the beginning and end of the research, while contact with the thesis advisor(s) should be frequent throughout the thesis project. You will agree the amount of instruction in the kick-off meeting with your supervisor and advisor.
Please read more in thesis instructions: https://www.aalto.fi/en/programmes/masters-programme-in-chemical-biochemical-and-materials-engineering/thesis#2-working-on-your-master-s-thesis
How can I find a good thesis topic?
Instructions for Thesis available in the Student Guide at https://www.aalto.fi/en/programmes/masters-programme-in-chemical-biochemical-and-materials-engineering/thesis
What about graduation?
Instructions for Graduation are available in the Student Guide page of your master's programme entitled Graduation.
CHEM thesis info on 8 December 2021
I will do an unpaid MSc thesis. Do you know the requirements for permission to work in the lab for the non-contract work. Thank you.
At Aalto, agree with your supervising professor & HR, you need to complete the laboratory safety course for staff members.
I'll do unpaid thesis in another university, I'm from EIT project, Aalto is my second-year university, the university who gives me a position is my first-year university, I want to ask the process
You need to obey the rules from both universities. You may contact the planning officer of your programme.
Who can be a supervisor and how should I ask to be one?
Aalto professor.
You may contact first the professors of your own major/programme (head of the major, other professors teaching courses in your major/programme).
How many advisors can one have, is there a limit?
One supervisor (Aalto professor, in some exceptional cases lecturer) and 1-2 advisors
How long can the thesis work take without it affecting the grade? i.e. if it is already agreed that the thesis would take one year in the beginning (starting first slowly due to courses), is it ok?
This "slower" schedule needs to be agreed well with everybody involved.
How is the thesis work different if working with a company?
The requirements of the thesis are equal no matter where you do it.
Do you have any tips on where to find a thesis position? I don't really have contacts in my field (biotech) and have a hard time finding open jobs
Ville's tip during the event: Look for old master's thesis (relevant to your major/interest) and the instructors there.
Also the summer job contacts are important.
What happens if the thesis is not finished in the time agreed in the contract?
It is quite common that the work contract ends before the thesis is finalized and approved.
Is there anything you can do if you don't know what you should be doing and the advisors are not active?
You may contact your supervising professor or planning officer of your major/programme.
How much time should be preserved for the literature part? I heard one month is typically preserved but manytimes more time is needed in reality?
Usually one month.
If you do a thesis for a company, how do you find a supervisor from the school? Does the supervisor help with the thesis or should you have another supervisor from the company or both? How does confidentiality stuff work with the thesis?
A good option is to go to talk with the head of the major or other relevant professor from the major. For example if one of the courses is relevant to the possible topic in the company, you may start with the professor of that certain course.
Is it possible to apply to complete your thesis in a foreign institution or university? If so, are there any specific criteria you have to fulfill, and is there a schedule for the application process?
It is possible. The thesis must follow Aalto requirements & processes.
Is it possible to write the thesis for a foreign company, while conducting the research abroad? If so, would it be necessary to apply for a supervisor or a thesis advisor in Aalto?
You always need to have a supervisor from Aalto.
If a company wishes to "order" a thesis from Aalto, how does the payment to the thesis worker work (I've understood that then the salary would come in the form of a grant?)
There is a Foundation that can be used for this: https://www.aalto.fi/en/foundation-for-aalto-university-science-and-technology
Is it true that once you start the project from school side (apply for the topic), you have strictly 6 months time to do the thesis before your grade will start to decrease? So, if the project in for example VTT is estimated to last 6 - 9 months, there is no point to apply before 3 months into the work...?
It depends on the case. Please, agree the schedule with the supervisor in the beginning of the process.
How to find the relevant person in the company to contact?
Open thesis positions, advisors of earlier thesis...
When does School of Chemical Engineering hold the Master Thesis oral presentations seminars or where can I see the dates? Does it has to be done before applying for approval of Thesis? How can I sign myself up for one?
There are no specific oral presentation seminars at CHEM. Each student agrees the presentation of the thesis with the supervisor. This presentation should to be given before applying for the approval of the thesis.
Do you have to strictly wait for the DPC approval of your topic or can you start before that if the topic is agreed on with supervisor and advisor?
You do not need to wait for the approval of the degree programme commitee, but the topic needs to be agreed with your supervisor and it is recommended to apply for the approval of the thesis in time.
Can you do changes to HOPS after starting to write thesis in case of there are still some courses to complete?
Yes you can. You should have the updated HOPS (personal study plan) when applying for topic approval and the FINAL version of HOPS accepted when applying for the degree.
If the thesis work lasts less than six months, does it affect the final evaluation?
No.
Who does the evaluation?
The official grade is decided by the degree programme committee. The proposal of the grade comes from the supervisor.
Is there a possibility to get enxtensions in the previously agreed work time due to e.g. personal health reasons without the evaluation suffering from this?
Yes. Communicate with your supervisor.
Is it possible to agree on the topic, supervisor and advisor 1 year before writing the thesis?
You may start looking for the position and discuss on the topic early, but it is recommended that you agree on the topic and details when you are ready to start the thesis in following months and your studies are in suitable stage.
What is the official graduation date in papers after I have submit the thesis? Is it the Degree Program Committee meeting day, or the day when I submit the thesis on eAge? Something else?
Something else:
The graduation date will be the application deadline for submitting the thesis for evaluation AND applying for graduation.
How much earlier does the thesis topic has to be submitted before it being processed by the degree program committee?
See the Admistration schedule and key dates: https://www.aalto.fi/en/programmes/masters-programme-in-chemical-biochemical-and-materials-engineering/graduation
If I want to do material modeling, how large the work load is acceptable, or could publication replace thesis?
To be agreed with your supervisor.
Do you have to have the supervisor confirmed before applying for topic approval?
Yes! The supervisor needs to be included in the process from the very beginning.
Can I start working with my thesis, before getting the topic confirmed?
You need to agree on the topic with the supervisor, but the topic doesn't need to be approved by the degree programme committee before starting.
Do you have to hold the oral presentation before submitting for evaluation of the thesis?
Yes.
If I want to graduate in July, when is my latest apply time?
31.7.2023